this thread is for when you have to say something to get it out of the system, whether it is happy or sad.
my reason for stating the thread is that on occasion some threads do tend to get a little heated here, and maybe this thread will enable us to reflect on the important fact, we are real people and not just dots on a computer screen.. i would love to start the thread with a bang, but nothing of particular interest has happened, only i do hope the weather improves as the climate i live in has been sadly chilly for the time of year, (if you get the deeper meaning).
the rebel..
Thanks Rebel,
The Rebel part of the name is what my mother called all my life and I earned every bit of it and still do.
The Fighter part of the name is what what the "Elder" called me because I fight everything I disagree with no matter what is right or wrong.
this thread is for when you have to say something to get it out of the system, whether it is happy or sad.
my reason for stating the thread is that on occasion some threads do tend to get a little heated here, and maybe this thread will enable us to reflect on the important fact, we are real people and not just dots on a computer screen.. i would love to start the thread with a bang, but nothing of particular interest has happened, only i do hope the weather improves as the climate i live in has been sadly chilly for the time of year, (if you get the deeper meaning).
the rebel..
Rebel,
My wish for you is much better weather. Two years ago I moved to accomplish just that, at 7 AM I am sitting outside with my coffee and typing. I know you can hate me for that. Our change of seasons are 20 to 30 degrees. And recovery occurs during the day normally.
hello everybody,i've been lurking for a while and since i really adore reading the biggest part of the posts, especially this italian ( american) guy about his experiences at bethel in the 70's, i feel a little bit guilty for not participating with my contribute.
i am really so sorry for the people that are suffering because of the wts.my story is a " happy ending " story, i married a jw almost 30 years ago and i am here to tell that we are still very happy.
she is very liberal and our 3 kids are " normal ".
Welcome Roberto to the forum. What a very sad story for your father in law. You did not give his age at the time of the bladder cancer diagnosis. I was 50 when I received the same horrible news and 75% of my bladder was covered in tumors. I did not require a transfusion and I have been cancer free for 15 years.
should a teen, a child of a believing mother, cooperate in the fact-gathering of the elders into the waywardness (not sex related, hopefully) of some local teenagers?
what scenarios can you see playing out?
all teens to clam up?
well it finally happened!
we have been waiting about a year for this, my dfd husbands family asked us for money.
even though his own father hasn't met our 8 month old son.
Ghiagirl,
The sad thing is this behavior actually happens in families outside of the cult as well. No one in my family was in the cult and there were only three of us my mother and a sister. I was considered a part of the family ONLY when I was writing someone checks otherwise all Hell was the name of the game. The most abusive phone calls, they even confronted my children offering to take them in because we know your mother is not good. Of course my kids came straight to me and reported this crazy behavior. It took till I was 60 to cut all ties with these people. My kids cut ties with them long before I did.
i see people struggling with maintaining control over their reactions to their witness relatives and something struck me that i'd like to share.
as a jw you're taught that you should have unlimited self-control.
article after article, talk after talk, about controlling your impure thoughts, feelings, music, movies, speech, actions, literally everything a human could struggle with.
Dubstepped,
Excellent post, never a JW but this is soooo very true. It took the "Elder", the County Sheriff and Social Services to convince me that I could not continue carrying for my ALZ mother. She was extremely violent and as the Sheriff said we are watching your house for your safety one of these calls unfortunately is going to be to take you to the hospital when she seriously hurts you, she has no clue what she is doing.
The really bad part was at the time I had three people in my life that was extremely toxic, I finally wised up and walked away from 2 of them and threatened the 3rd that he would be homeless if he did not straighten up.
I am a much happier person today and when someone starts their crap I either hang up the phone or walk away. They now know it is over I am not going to be walked all over, end of game. Sad part is it took 60 years to get to this point.
there was/is a sister in my old hall who was a pharmaceutical sales rep and she was a huge proponent of anything in the drug industry.
when someone had a headache, she was the first to say "take an asprin.
" now my husband and i are what you might call old hippies.
so my hubby has been on a bit of a roll about the jdubs, we were talking a lot about them & he said the buzz word he hate's the most is "worldly" why?
because he say's "with that one word they have condemned (according to their believes) a person as being worthy of nothing but death.
".
Here are two more the "Elder" used that drove me nuts:
Satin - I finally told him in the last email do not mention him again because I swear you worship Satin rather than Jehovah.
We will see - he used this phrase everytime he needed to say NO, the man could not say the word no.
so my hubby has been on a bit of a roll about the jdubs, we were talking a lot about them & he said the buzz word he hate's the most is "worldly" why?
because he say's "with that one word they have condemned (according to their believes) a person as being worthy of nothing but death.
".
Never a JW but I will add my .02 cents. The JWS call apostates mentally diseased and the apostates call those still stuck in the cult mentally diseased (partly correct). IMHO after watching the ARC those who are mentally diseased are the Elders and straight up the chain of command, to be able to treat another human being in this manner is just not right, to take an oath to tell the truth and out right lie. My mother has full blown Alz she does not say I do not remember as much as those Elders said I do not remember.
As a wordly person my vote is for two phrases:
Wordly people
Mentally diseased (elders on up till they wake up and exit the cult)
i have two.
"please god protect me from your people".
"if you love something let go.......if it doesn't come back, hunt in down and kill it" .
